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August 19, 2009

Obama makes claim to religious audience that isn't true

President Obama participated in a scripted online commercial for his health care overhaul with religious voters and pastors Wednesday that ended with him bemoaning those who bear “false witness” against his plans – and then making a claim of his own that’s been widely shown to be false.

“There’s been a lot of misinformation,” Obama said as he joined the program near its end, complaining about “people who are bearing false witness.”

He said the first thing he wanted to correct was the idea that the proposed overhaul would force some people into different health care plans. “If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”

But that’s not true, according to factcheck.org, an independent truth squadding effort run by the University of Pennsylvania.

 

“He can’t make that promise to everyone,” says factcheck’s analysis, one of several that have pointed out that the health care plan could lead to employers switching plans _ and thus forcing their employees into different plans and perhaps to different doctors.

“Under the House bill,” Factcheck said, “some employers might have to modify plans after a five-year grace period if they don’t meet minimum benefits standards.

 

“Furthermore, some firms are likely to buy different coverage for their workers than they have now, or simply drop coverage and pay a penalty instead, leaving workers to buy their own private coverage or go on a new federal insurance plan.”


Obama also worked to knock down the false assertions that the overhaul would create “death panels” that would euthanize old people. “That is just an extraordinary lie,” Obama said.

He also noted that the proposed plan would ban financing health care for illegal immigrants, not provide care as some have charged. And he said there would be no federal financing of abortion under the plans, a charge made again Wednesday by the Republican National Committee.

“These are all fabrications,” he said.

He said he’d need help from all of the people on the call to correct the record, and prod Congress to pass a health care plan.

“I’m going to need the help of all of you,” he said. “Knock on doors, speak the truth.”

The 40-minute program, which was aired via the internet on blogtalkradio.com,  featured testimonials about the need for health care changes from pastors and members of various churches, mosques, synagogues and temples around the country, all of them apparently supporters of Obama’s proposals.
      

 

 

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Obama participated in online commercial for his health care. He said that "If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.”

Steve Thomma

To Peter Clarke:
Just to correct the record, the House has not approved the health care overhaul.
Three committees in the House have approved versions, but a final proposal has not yet been sent to the full House for a vote.

peterclarke

Any honest lawyer or lay person who has truly read the health bill, passed by the House, the only conclusion one could come to is that it is NOT a health care reform piece of legislation. However it is clearly a federal government power grab to control health benefits and treatments under private or public plans.

It further will take away responsibilities or restrictions concerning same from the local State Governments, doctors and private insurance companies and put this power and responsibility into the hands of an UN-elected health Commissioner (SEC. 123).

With more than 85% of Americans satisfied with the coverage available to them, why are Democrats and Republican Senators and House Members, supported by their respective political parties, lobbyists and special interest groups, rushing to Dismantle the existing health care insurance programs (SEC. 121)?

We are told about a need for competition. Well, that already exists. Americans looking cheaper un-certified AMA Doctors and unregulated procedures or just feel USA regulations are the problems they already go to India, Cuba, Venezuela or Mexico.

Is the so called reform, then, mainly to include health benefits for the 15 to 20 million illegal’s and non-Americans? Is it to cover the 2 to 3 million who do not have and can not afford health care coverage for political reasons?

Or, the power grab is it is written, for the Federal Government and political parties too further control your life style, treatment and health benefits through unelected bureaucrats and czars making treatment or benefit decisions for us based on the cheapest available drug or health procedures? The one blue pill fits all approach (section 141)!

Why is there NO clause or statement in any proposed health reform bill or HR3200 that specifically states that NON-CITIZENS will NOT be entitled to benefits under the Government socialized universal health care program. WHY?

The Obama power grab for a socialized universal health care government run program, will lead to the complete dismantling of the current health care insurance system within 5 years. Read it, it is in the bill (SEC. 102).

Now Obama-Care is considering Government financed co-operative non-profit health care insurance programs. This in itself might be a good move, but it raises a number of questions that need to be answered.

Like is the Government going to fund these co-operative non-profits out of our taxes?

Is there going to be a restriction that clearly states that only legalized American residents will be in a position to join and receive benefits from these Coops.?

If they are funded through taxes, like those companies who asked for and took the tarp money they will be subject to how the money is spend and what health services will be covered and who will be calling the shots relating to treatments? Government unelected bureaucrats and political czars or patience’s and their doctors? As, all these also presently exist in the House Bill 3200. Read it (Subtitle E).


Further if and when these non-profits were to go bankrupt, would we the tax payers have to bail them out, like was done with Banks and Auto sector? Of course we would, just ask Senators like Barney Franks or other that are hiding from the voters.

So is it really a move away from a socialized universal health care or just another way for this Government to come in with dismantling the current health care insurance programs over a five year period, through the back door by taxpayer funding for these Coop, non-profit health care insurance programs through HR3200 which is the largest Federal Government power grab from the people and their doctors and local State Governments in history of the Republic?

strangetimes

This happens every year now - I don't understand the fuss. Every year our employer changes or modifies our health care plan to save money. The coverage changes, the deductibles change, where I'm forced to buy prescription meds change. In one year, I was refused coverage for a pre-existing condition they had been covering under different plans for the previous 2 years! Factcheck apparently needs to do a little more fact checking.

American

This dishonest claim was made yesterday in a McClatchy article. And here it is again, literally cut and pasted from the article.

"If you like your health plan you can keep it" is literally true.

If your employer changes health care plans, you will be forced to change your health care plan. Whether we have health care reform or not.

Why is it health care reform opponents seem to have so much trouble with the truth?

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