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October 13, 2008

Who are the troops backing for president?

The U.S. military is encouraging its servicemen and women overseas to mail back their absentee ballots this week (For those who need more information on how to do that, here is the link.) I figured this week was also a good time to discuss who the troops are voting for. The question has sparked a fierce debate among some military circles, especially after the Military Times released a poll last week of its current and former subscribers.

The Times found that McCain had an overwhelming lead over Obama, 68 to 23 percent. And it said that Iraq ranked third amongst the most important issues to the troops, behind character and the economy.

Iraq was the No. 1 issue in the paper’s 2004 survey. And in that year, respondents said the voted for President Bush over Sen.  John Kerry, 68 to 17 percent.

The paper was quick to note that its readers tend to be older and don’t always reflect the diversity of the military. That is, it’s not scientific. But it’s the only poll of the military, which of course is a key – and telling – voting bloc. So what do the results mean?

I think it means that nobody really knows which way the military is leaning, or at least by how much. Troops usually vote overwhelming Republican, and Sen. John McCain’s service in the Navy and five-plus years as a prison of war in Vietnam make him a military hero by most anyone’s standards. So the numbers in some ways are not surprising.

And yet troops voting in this election likely have served in Iraq and Afghanistan. Their opinions about the way ahead are based on personal experiences, not political rhetoric. The drop in violence in Iraq – and the increase in Afghanistan – will shape how they think about the next four years. And the differences between the two candidates on Iraq are stark.

In August, the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics found that Sen. Barack Obama received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at the time of their contribution than to McCain or one-time presidential candidate Rep. Ron Paul (who is fiercely opposed to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.)

In addition, the paper found that “nearly eight out of 10 black service members indicated they intend to vote for Obama,” many who voted for Bush in 2000 and 2004. 

So will the 68 to 23 percent lead hold? Perhaps. Regardless, the final tally could be the best measure we have on how the troops really feel not only politically, but on the surge, the move toward counterinsurgency and the way ahead in Iraq and Afghanistan. 

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hamlet bruguera

I am an independent voter for more than 35-38 years and I have been voting for every winner except Kerry thru all those years; There is something about Mccain that made me uncorfotable, I searched and found a cheated ex wife; I searched and found out thru McClatchy news that He was dined and wined by Pinochet of Chile in 1985 while Pinochet was conducting torture and killings of his own people; We as Americans must walk the walk.........No wonder the world see us like they do!

Bill C

More spin being put out here. McCain has always supported the military more than Obama, considering Obama has only been in the Senate for 2 years. The only reason McCain voted against any military funding is because they were loaded with pork projects!! People may think they will get more from an Obama administration, and they may initially, but it will be taken away later in taxes, lost jobs (due to businesses leaving or going broke), and loss of freedom. I have been in the military for 26 years and I voted McCain.

Jkat

so .. are we to believe that a military which is giving 6 to 1 in contributions to one candidate is voting almost the opposite .. ??

i think it's republican propaganda .. it contrasts sharply with the annual poll among military times readers from years'-end last year ..

kazoo

Um... Aren't you folks reporters? Those McCain numbers from MT are pretty counterintuitive, plus don't mesh with everything I've read on active duty military personnel opinions AND political donations. I recall Ron Paul had broad support with donations from this group, notwithstanding his clear antiwar position.

Anyway, can't McClatchy reporters find better military personnel polls/opinions than this???

Please report back!

SiberianRat

McCain has a DISMAL record on supporting veterans, outside of his rhetoric. Also, McCain will be all war, all the time. How anyone in the military can vote for him is beyond me.

oldfaithless

If the troops knew what was good for them, they wouldn't be troops.

RandyT

I would agree with ash. I spent 28 years in the Navy and early on voted Republican until Reagan's second term. By then I saw what he was doing to the macroeconomics of our country, and his attacks on the poor to justify the big tax cuts to the rich - which contiued on by Bush II. Both built up huge debt also to give the rich more money to gamble with knowing we would have to bail them out. I give you the current Wall Street bail out and the S & L of the Reagan years.

McCain does not walk the walk in regard to support of our veterans, of couse neither has most the chickenhawks past and present.

RandyT, USN Ret.

MyMindThinks

Too many buy into McCain's misleading claims that Obama does not support funding the troops and are being a bit lazy and not checking the records. McCain has voted against funding far more times than Obama. FAR MORE TIMES

My fellow military people - please do your homework

Ainslie

Are there no actual polls on the current leanings of the military? It would seem neither expensive nor logistically difficult to get real data on this (rather than the Military Times subscriber poll).

ash

I spent 22 years in the Navy and when I was younger and not so politically aware I voted Republican.
However, troops need to know that John McCain, although he went to college on the taxpayers dime opposed the new GI Bill which gives Veterans the same benefit he enjoyed.
He also has been eligible for government medical his entire life yet wants to tax that part of your income set aside for medical uses (when you get out and start paying these you will understand).
Veteran's organizations give Obama a B and McCain a D. Start voting now for your future.

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