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October 19, 2009

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Canada Guy


Current trends seem to suggest that the future of Israel will be that of a binational state. While this is not something most Israelis want, even many conservative Israelis have concluded it may be inevitable.

http://watching-history.blogspot.com/2009/10/israel.html

Guideman

I think every pro-Israel person must never blowup the political profits they gained from the Gaza conflict. First, that is not good Biblically (as against the vanquished), Second that will give the Hamas much better ideas. Just leave the Palestinians alone wondering what have they gained from destroying their cities, making themselve more impoverished, desolated, isolated from the rest of the thinking world, and dying from the ravages of war they themselves have raised.

Guideman

It seems the Israelis have no more option but to allow the binational state; That is path the've chosen - land for peace...and they failed again horribly. Was it not written long, long time ago? 'Donot put your trust unto man for man surely fails...' Will Israel never stop learning from bad lessons?

Guideman

Nothing amazes me more than to see the Jews who are considered in average, the most intelligent race, yet as a nation cannot even understand their own sacred ancient scriptures!(could it be a curse?)

didi

you truly have the weirdest readers dion

Ariel

Guideman needs to read The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine by Israeli historian Ilan Pappe. Then he can explain how Israel's sacred scriptures mandated mass terror against gentiles.

And he can read Israel's own sacred scriptures discussing what the Jews did to those they found in Palestine when they first arrived: genocide of gentiles.

Shalom!

Nersas

Palestine was Judea in the past it was only called Palistine by the Romans. The people living in Judea which is Plaistine today were Jews, how can there be ethnic cleansing on the part of the Israel when the Jews were one of its people? Now who are the settlers ?

lono

You wouldn't by chance have considered that the Israeli newspapers and their sources inflated the threat to justify the invasion? Like Bush and WMD? Did the Palestinians "fail" as you would have it, or did the Israelis lie, to their people and everyone else? (Or did Israel just get it wrong?) As usual -- you use something to find fault with or make fun of the Arab side.

Guideman

This is my answer to Ariel, when the Israelites first came to Israel, they simply settled just like anybody there who were settlers also. There was no established nation in Canaan by then. Only tribal towns/cities of people who also settled from other countries. And the Hebrews called them Canaanites. The Hebrew forefathers bought lands from the settlers (at most, for burial sites). The Canaanites were attacking them; the Hebrews won and they ruled the land. And the Hebrews were able to established a Jewish nation at it became their kingdom their nation after thousands of years of rule. This is the global principle of Attrition - the basis of permanent conquest which all empires (good or evil) has practiced and was recognized until this day...

Guideman

Any people or tribe who would opposed or contest this ironical but notnetheless globally accepted principle of attrition must go to war againts the nation (seated) in power. The arab settlers (now Palestinians and other arabs)went to war twice, but the Jews prevailed (they should have maximized the opportunity and destroyed the Al Aqsa Mosque by then during the heat of battle in Jerusalem to prevent future conflict due that issue) But they Jews opted to buy-out peace with land and territory in appeasement of the angry Arabs. They have offered their enemy a hand of bread, now their enemy would devour including the whole arms...

Guideman

for Iono: The Morton Salt says, 'When it rains it pours'. When missles poured from Gaza; we need no newspapers to bloat the story to justify the invasion...

TheAZCowBoy

Pity the genocidal Jews, they learned nothing from the Hallohoax and are about to learn 'loads' from their murderous foray into Gaza where they showed the world their capacity to behave like their Nazi cousins in Germany in the 'good 'Ol kristalnaught Dayze of 1933.'

Yassar Jews, 'stay at home vacations for the forseeable future' as the EU teems with criminal arrest warrants for the Jewish IDF/IAF killers. And, sorry to say, the Ellie Weasals of that 1/2 acre of Zionist hell, world class war criminal sluths unable to gather the stomach to go help arrest IDF war criminals.

Oh well....

TheAZCowBoy
Tombstone, AZ.

Rmingtn

"You wouldn't by chance have considered that the Israeli newspapers and their sources inflated the threat to justify the invasion? Like Bush and WMD?"
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Except they didn't go in after "alleged" WMD, or even after their vaunted "super" solders that HAMAS itself proclaimed it had. Israel went in to stop the THOUSANDS of rockets, mortars, and bullets that were flying into Israel MONTHLY. (and it worked) Terrorist attacks on Israel have dropped since then. If Hamas wants the attacks to stop, they can accept Israel's right to EXIST. And also that they, being the LOSERS of several wars, have lost property they otherwise would have kept if they hadn't started a WAR, or passively supported other wars. You can't have it both ways, Arabs planned to "push Israel into the sea". They NEVER planned to give the land back afterward. But oh noes! When they LOST THE WAR, they suddenly want the rules changed! Funny....

Abi Levine

As usual, the people not on the ground totally miss the point. If Israel hadn't gone in so heavy then who's to know what the casualty figures would have been? Revealing comments made by one commander, Colonel Avi Blot in Haaretz revealed that far from a cakewalk the situation deterioated once Israel entered Gaza City, tanks became bogged down and took heavy fire, while the perspectives of his being an easy war to fight come from the mostly reservist guys who were just reinforcing areas back from the frontline#.

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