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August 13, 2009

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Charlie H. Ettinson

"...Guiroa said he would be "hard pressed" to believe that Israeli soldiers unjustly opened fire on Palestinians carrying white flags."

This sums up my feelings on incidents like this quite well. Sure, there may be rotten apples in the IDF as there are anywhere in the world, but knowing what I know of Israel, Israelis and the IDF--having had experiences with all of the above--it's very hard to beleive that soldiers would deliberatley have killed civilians with that specific intent.

Ian

This is a link to a list of inconsistencies in the Khaled Rabbo story.
http://camera.org/index.asp?x_context=2&x_outlet=62&x_article=1624

"Most residents of Jebel al-Kashif claim there were no Hamas fighters in the area at the time of the alleged incident, but a middle-aged farmer in a battered army jacket took me aside and said, in a near whisper, that Hamas had been firing rockets from the vicinity of where the episode took place.- Time Magazine
"http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1874850-2,00.html

The HRW decided to ignore this, and not even mention it in a footnote. Who knows what else they "forgot" to mention.

Who'd expect less from Joe Stork, who seems to have once said that the Munich Massacre was good for Palestinian morale.

popsiq

Apologetics aside, and there are no shortage on either side, dead babies and the undenied presence of an armed and active military force operating in a civilian environment are the stuff of what makes war 'hell'.

Brian

This is absolute nonsense...

1)The IDF should be responsibility to protect the lives of civilians first and foremost. I'm sick to death of listening how they kill a dozen children because maybe there was a armed millitant in the area. Would the IDF kill all the passengers of a hijacked Isaeli aircraft in order to get to the hijackers?

2)The IDF attacked a civilian city with rockets, mortars, phosphorous and possibly depleted uranium. They killed 1400 people in retribution for 8 Israeli deaths in 5 years of homemade rocket attacks (which were largely provoked by Isreal's seige over Gaza in the first place). Clearly this disproportionate killing illustrats a wanton disregard of the IDF for civilian life.

3) The IDF's policy of destrying infrastructure, businesses, schools, farms is consistent first and foremost with a policy of ethnic cleansing. Anyone familiar with Isreal must understand that this is the ultimate goal as Israel's Jewish majority is threatened by what they call a demographic timebomb. Over 40 years the effort has been to drive the Palestinians out of
the occupied territories by making their lives unbearable. It doesn't take much to see the strategy past the thinly disguised actions.

4) The IDF deliberately denied access to any journalists to the area and fails to cooperate in any independent investigations.

I am so sick of listening to nit picking details in individual incidents. It's like trying to hide the forest behind trees.

People apply some common sense. In the 1970 the US supported death squads in South America... in the 1980's it vehemently vetoed UN sactions against aparthide in South Africa. The US is not infallable.

Why does anyone deny that this might just be yet another tragic foreign policy nightmare that supports some of the most viscious injustices and ill treatment of civilians seen anywhere on the planet.

Of course... one would need to look past the whitewash of mainstay US media.

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