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November 27, 2008

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Amir

The 'good news' is that Amira Hass is back in Gaza, reporting for Haaretz. She got into Gaza on a ship, one of those 'Free whatever' cruises.

Ariel

At least the SS let the press into Auschwitz, albeit to view staged events. Evidently the Palestinians in Gaza are a bit more unruly than the Jews in Auschwitiz.

The Baron

"At least the SS let the press into Auschwitz." How proud you must be, Ariel, to join the proud tradition of comparing the Israelis to the greatest Jew-haters of all time. What a deft use of irony! But that "albeit" comes back to bite you on the ass, doesn't it? I guess the actual circs make it a bit tough to portray the Nazis as having one up on the Israelis. And yes, the Jews in Auschwitz were a bit too busy being slaughtered to be "unruly." But that doesn't make your analogy - Gaza/Auschwitz - any less despicable. Shame!

John Francis Lee

'As Jo Floto of the BBC noted today, the only place its correspondents are banned are North Korea, Burma and Zimbabwe.

"We don't want Israel to join that very select and regrettable club," Floto said today at a news confererence held to discuss the ongoing Israeli ban.'

Does Jo Floto think that Gaza is part of Israel? It is not.

Would you be surprised that the German authorities kept you out of the Warsaw Ghetto? Are you surprised that the present US regime keep you out of Guantanamo?

The final solution is never broadcast on TV.

Remember what Ike said when he entered the Concentration Camps after WWII? "Take all the pictures you can, because someday some SOB is going to deny that this ever happened."

Perhaps you might remind the Israelis of that. They seem to have forgotten.

The Baron

JF Lee: again, the specious and loathsome analogy of a bigoted hater. Gaza is not a concentration camp. It's a zone from which Jews were evacuated so the Palestinians could have at least the beginnings of a state. But rather than cultivate their own garden, they (i.e. Hamas) would prefer to continue their program of trying to exterminate the Jews. Naturally as a sovereign state Israel has to defend itself, something people like you usually forget. You're an idiot and have confused the arsonist and the firefighter. Your bais against Israel is despicable.

John Francis Lee

...they (i.e. Hamas) would prefer to continue their program of trying to exterminate the Jews.

Wow! Please drop back down to earth for a reality check, Baron! The idea of Hamas or any Palestinian group exterminating the Israelis, let alone "the Jews" is absurd!

The similarities between Israel's treatment of the Palestinians and so many other groups treatment of Jews throughout Western history is apparent to everyone, and especially to Jews.

You, like the boy who cried wolf, are destroying the real meaning of the word with your shrill cries of "bigoted hater" toward critics of Israel. Israel needs real friends at this point, like Cecilie Surasky at http://www.muzzlewatch.com and the folks at Jewish Voice for Peace, http://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org/

You've been driven around the bend, I'm afraid, probably by your own horror at seeing Israel in the throes of the same disease that has afflicted so many other cultures over the course of time.

Edie

JF Lee you're absolutely right. Cecilie Surasky is a courageous woman working towards a just and true, long-lasting peace for everyone, Israelis and Palestinians.

So are the young, Israeli 12th graders of Schministim - conscientious objectors who are being repeatedly jailed for refusing to serve in the Occupied Territories.

You can see the latest action being done by JVP on behalf of these kids at www.december18th.org.

It's too easy to succomb to emotional, extreme positions in this conflict and lose sight of reality like 'The Baron' has done.

As more people travel to the Occupied Territories, are exposed to the reality on the ground thru the internet and become more aware of human rights and international law they are less likely to believe people like 'The Baron' with his extreme statements. Old propoganda doesn't work as well anymore.

The Baron

So Israel needs real friends at this point, eh, JF Lee? As a Jew, I'm touched by your concern for our survival. Like you, for example? Please explain.

Dan

The Baron's Hasbara got totally dismantled. "Truth to Power" has happened at McClatchy, once again!

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