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S

Emerging rock scene my butt! come on man! How many articles must be continuously written about Cina's "new" rock scene? People were writing articles 14 years ago about China's new rock scene, and again 13 years ago, and again 11 years ago, and again 10 years ago, etc.

Tim J

C'mon S! Not everybody's a Zhongguo tong like you. This blog's got readers who've never been to Beijing and wouldn't know Cui Jian from a Panda cigarette.

TR

The Beijing music scene today is nothing like the stuff of the 1990s, when all the excitment was not about the quality of the music but simply the fact that it existed in China. Things are much different now, and unlike in the 1990s, when all the talk about music was from the general press, now it is mostly musicians and critics in the US and Europe who are talking about how good it is. For some reason many older expats get incensed whenever others discuss the current scene. Why?

Kirk K

I think TR's distinction is important. Even though rock's existed in some form or another for some time around here, the music and environment are constantly evolving.

The last two or three years has seen a lot more sophistication and professionalism (in terms of long-term sustainability) brought into the rock scene. This is projecting experienced artists into wider recognition in the city community -- Chinese and foreign -- and worldwide. There is, too the spawning a whole new, different pool of appreciation and interest to foster emerging artists. There were plenty of rockers trying their stuff before that, but the city was a different place then, just as it will be a different place in another couple years. The environment changes, the music changes, the people change. It's all perpetually nascent. But it isn't immaculate conception.

I feel like many expats tend do develop a sense possession of the music here and, more broadly, their memories here. Memories are important in a place that has changed as much as Beijing. How many foreigners were there in Beijing in the 80s? How many are here now? I ain't got nothin' on the people who've been here for one, two, or more decades, but I still feel like I have more China Expat Points when I see first-time study abroad students partying. It's all an expat process.

And as much as expats might feel wiser about China as they live here, there are still sooo many people who know little to nothing about China, let alone it's developing rock scene, which to them probably would seem nascent.

For interested readers looking for leads to find out more about Beijing's music scene, you could try searching for local expat magazines' coverage of music. City Weekend, the Beijinger, That's Beijing, Time Out Beijing all have some kind of music coverage. Check for events to get a picture of the entertainment scene. Micromu.com is a cool blog supporting the folk scene. It has a lot of music and videos, and they're all free (in agreement with the artists involved). Micromu is in Chinese, but it has lots of clear links to watch videos and download music.

Kirk K

It occurs to me, as an afterthought, that for rock music, Beijing seems to be the place to go. Maybe Shanghai? I'm glad to see people spreading it to Qingdao and beyond.

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Surely the rock scene in Beijing today is different from that 10 years or 20 years ago (is the American or British rock scene today the same as that 20 years ago?). But to say the rock scene in China is nascent is indeed a bit funny.

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Oh no, no Rock n' Roll in Qingdao. Don't touch our girls there!

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