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Pffefer

Wu Liao!

Aimee

Number of Avon ladies in China: 15,000

This is great. Thanks for posting.

Ich lieber Obama?

Funny that the Harper's quotes one single guy in stating the minimum number of Chinese censors. Where did this guy named Xiao Qiang get his numbers from? Just a (uneducated) guess? Of course this list also quotes some single-person sources, e.g., in "Chance that a Silicon Valley technology company started since 1995 was founded by Indian or Chinese immigrants". But AnnaLee Saxenian is a world renowned expert on the topic, who lives in the Silicon valley area and conducts systematic surveys there. Mr. Xiao Qiang, on the other hand, is someone who never conducts serious research but spends the day reading online content, who probably came up with his figure by flapping his head.

On a different note, given that Chinese entrepreneurs are idiotic enough as to pay 2 million dollars just to have lunch with Warren Buffet, it's no wonder that none of the world’s most valuable companies was Chinese.

Tim J

Dear Ich, I think the figure on censors is totally suspect. I don't know anyone who has given an authoritative answer to that question. Xiao Qiang provides a valuable service at the China Digital Times out of Berkeley but I don't think he has inside information in all the ministries that have a hand in the Great Net Nanny.

tek

Talk to the antihacker, antispam, and antivirus orgs and companies operating in China for better indications of some of these things, though usually they keep this info to themselves because it's "proprietary" info. So unless you are the gov't or a big tech security firm you will not know the answer ;)

snowhole

The People's Bank of China is the state's central bank, how is it a profitable bank?

On-anong

Very interesting statistics.

100,000 Chinese censors who monitor Internet activity? That's seems way too high, that would be one of the largest organizations in the world.

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