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On the other hand

Overrall it seems the audience in Beijing has been very graceful to both home teams and visiting teams, belying worries about rising nationalism in China. I'm also pleased that several Chinese are coaching American teams, e.g., in diving, gymnastics, and volleyball, just like several Americans have been coaching Chinese teams.

On the other hand

It's interesting that the NY Times reported the skepticism on Liu Zige (including the commented you cited that her victory is "not rational"), but not that on Phelps.

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In the good old days of the emperor, it would be "off with their heads" if they didn't win!

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Note ban on demonstrations in Olympic areas....


August 17, 2008
Swede Stripped of His Medal After His Angry Reaction
By JERÉ LONGMAN

BEIJING — The International Olympic Committee stripped the bronze medal Saturday from a Swedish wrestler who had complained about the judging in his Greco-Roman competition and had discarded his medal during the awards ceremony in protest.

The wrestler, Ara Abrahamian, was disqualified for violating the spirit of fair play of the Games and had his athlete’s credential revoked, according to the I.O.C.

A contentious penalty that cost him a chance to compete for a gold medal in the middleweight division Thursday left Abrahamian furious. News reports said that he had to be restrained from wrestling officials after the incident. He later won a bronze medal in a consolation match, but did not participate in the full medal ceremony.

The Associated Press said that Abrahamian dropped the bronze on the mat as he walked away from the medal podium, while Bloomberg News said that he put the medal on the floor. Abrahamian had finished second at the 2004 Athens Olympics after a similarly disputed call.

In a disciplinary hearing Friday, Abrahamian said he had been a victim of “blatant errors in judging.” The I.O.C. accused him of violating two rules of the Olympic Charter than ban demonstrations in official Olympic areas and prohibit the showing of disrespect for other Olympic athletes.

Sparkle

LOL, this is exactly the attitude that takes human race right to the top. If there is a flaw in the test, report it; if there is flaw in the process, report it; if there is corruption, find it. That's what journalist should do. Just blindly jumping in and asking these "stupid" questions is not getting you anywhere. I would guess the answer, before these reporters even asked such questions, "No we are not doped".

I have addressed myself in the previous post. We should ask are these repeatedly asked questions in a good intention or a bad one, or even neutral. Asking these "are-you-doped-question" again and again, shows that these reporters assumed skeptics to be facts.

My personal oppinion on this issue is, whoever made such comment on "this is impossible", totally lacking the olympic spirit. Aren't we supposed to be faster and stronger? We are living longer and heathier than people were 40 years ago. We are in 2008 people, your record is last year.

Bill

Journalists are paid to be skeptical. They should be more skeptical and ask more pointed questions. The world, except China, depends on it.

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