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SiberianRat

This is sad. China is trying to showcase itself to the world by creating a Hollywood set of a city which seems to take away from the true flavor of Beijing. I'm so glad I decided against going (I was seriously weighing it).

A B

Many security procedures are implemented not because they make things more secure, but because they make the innocent (everyone) feel more secure.

Like bag and body searches for everyone boarding aircraft.

Just precisely how many incidents does that prevent? Or even exist without any searches at all?

Look at it from another way: suppose a regime were implemented to run sobeiety / drug / fatigue / inattention checks on every single driver getting into a car? upplement that with mandatory rechecks every couple hours at checkpoints?

Sure... that would prevent many traffic accidents!

But....

tjh

Why's the Kro's nest shut down?! I love that place. One of my reliable places to get a Guinness.

CS

I have been shocked and amused to see just how much antiChinese feeling has been stirred up by these measures.

Here in Australia jokes about being shot for smiling at the Olympics and not-cheering etc are very common on the TV.

Most Chinese i know (OK most Chinese north of Shanghai) have a pretty good sense of humour, we used to have some quality practical jokes in the office.

Very very sad to see them wanting to reduce Beijing to a Disneylandesq place and that people are laughing at them.

Would it really have been that hard to engage a PR firm and then listen to them?

Tim J

Kro's Nest is shut because it was smack up against the Worker's Stadium. I don't know if Vic's and the Outback Steakhouse have also been shut down.

Peter in Shanghai

I live in Shanghai and I'm having no fun trying to buy some English language books at the few places where that's possible. Two days ago, exasperated by browsing the same old collection of so-so titles at Chaterhouse I thought to ask the clerk why they couldn't get something new for a change. Reply: the government is holding all new books at customs for 'security reasons' related to the Olympics. Puke puke puke!!! Never much of a sports fan I'm now becoming and active hater of this massive mass nonsense, and have begun browsing other places in the world where I can ply my trade. Down with authoritarian madness, I say!

Condor

@tjh

'Tis a shame. Part of the reason the communists won their civil war was that they were the masters of propaganda. Looks like that mastery has deteriorated with every year of the PRC. Look at how the Chinese view their own mass propaganda programs. But beware of what you wish for, I can't think of many things much scarier than the marriage of the government of the PRC, in its present state, to a truly professional propaganda, uh, i mean marketing and adverstising firm.

Condor

@tjh

'Tis a shame. Part of the reason the communists won their civil war was that they were the masters of propaganda. Looks like that mastery has deteriorated with every year of the PRC. Look at how the Chinese view their own mass propaganda programs. But beware of what you wish for, I can't think of many things much scarier than the marriage of the government of the PRC, in its present state, to a truly professional propaganda, uh, i mean marketing and adverstising firm.

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