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October 22, 2007

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SP

I'm curious about why there's an interest in studying farsi and learning about Iran at university if political relations are so strained that people don't even want to admit to knowing Iranian nationals? Just the literature and poetry?

Hannah Allam

Good question. Maybe so the Egyptians can communicate with the new Iraqi government? Kidding!
I guess there are many reasons, first and foremost the good, old-fashioned pursuit of knowledge. Also, there are periodic talks between Egyptian and Iranian officials so there's still a need for good interpreters. Many Egyptians also have a strong affection for Ahl el Bayt, the family of the prophet (ie, Hussein, Ali, etc.) and might be interested in translating Persian texts from Qom. A more cynical reason might be knowing thine enemy, perhaps the reason many Israelis learn Arabic and Palestinians learn Hebrew. (Incidentally, Hebrew also is offered at Ain Shams and other Egyptian universities.) And, as you pointed out, that wonderful Persian literature and poetry. Who wouldn't want to read a pure, untranslated Hafez ghazal?

SP

Ah - I was going to ask next if Hebrew was offered too. I guess all the various pragmatic and intellectual reasons suffice to attract enough students - and knowing thine enemy is always an important one (see how the study of Arabic boomed in the US post 9/11?) particularly if that Shia crescent keeps growing, which incidentally might not be such a bad thing if it brings glorious Iranian khoresht and polow in its wake.

NN

Funny, a half-Iranian, half-English friend of mine living in Cairo says that he's always greeted with whoops of delight by ordinary Egyptians when he tells them he's from Iran. That says much for differing perceptions of what constitutes 'the enemy' and why. Also the comparison with Israel is a bit off the mark. Iran may be a long-standing traditional Arab enemy but it's still regarded as part of the Middle Eastern family not a recently arrived aggressive interloper.

Hannah Allam

NN, thanks for your comment. I should clarify: there is certainly a very high level of hostility between the governments -- that's what I meant by "enemy." (you should see how Iran is bashed at Arab League summits) But you're absolutely right about the Persian-Egyptian lovefest on the personal level.There's the Ahl el Bayt connection, the pride in civilizations that stretch back thousands of years. I remember bartering for a carpet in Tehran and the shopkeeper just wouldn't reduce her price, no matter what. After I'd grudgingly paid her what she asked, we started chatting and she asked if I was Arab. I told her I was Egyptian and she went bananas, kissing me and welcoming me and singing Amr Diab songs. Best part: "Why didn't you tell me before? 25 percent off for you!"

SP

Hilarious - Amr Diab got you a discount? He's good for something, then!

An Iranian-American acquaintance talks about how she would get approving nods and thumbs up for being a "good Muslim" from Cairo taxi drivers years ago, when she told them she was Iranian - not because she was terribly pious (she's not veiled, and if they had probed they'd have discovered she was pretty much atheist) but because the Iranian revolution was popular among the Quran cassette-loving cabbie crowd.

I figured people who bothered to study Farsi at the university level were more likely to have pragmatic than sentimental reasons for doing so, hence the curiosity about government-level rather than sh3ab-level enmity (I've yet to hear any examples of the latter, actually).

Shahrzad

It was very interesting interview Hannah..
Recently i've found a lovely Egiptian friend. When we exchanged our cultural info, we got that there are much similarity between Iranian culture and Egiptian one. Even in litrature and phrases. In traditions, some foods and costums.
It really made me eager to visit Egypt someday. (Of course not with my other passport) And she also is eager to travel to Iran now..

I think kind of course in universities, help people to learn about each other countries more. Even if governments are not in touch, the nations can get to be in relation. Can't they?
It can be a start point.. I think it works for future peace..

Shahrzad

Correction: (Of course with my other passport)*

Homie

As an Iranian, I like Egyptians - I've been to Egypt and it looks like Iran in so many ways, a once ancient country stripped of its grandieur by ignorant rulers. Iranians and Egyptians are also culturally similar, although I have to say at this point in time, Egyptians are more religiously conservative. It's a shame that Egyptians get treated like crap in gulf arab countries that use their knowledge but give them half the pay that their own semi-literate citizens get. Hopefully, one day when both Egypt and Iran are free, we can exchange skills and expats and ignore those useless bedouin.

Andrew

Homie or Shahrzad is a free spirit writer. That one day you wish for should be here yesterday; and many people are wishing for that freedom…Behe Kahera khoush amdeed!

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