Egyptian students clutched their "Introduction to Farsi" workbooks as they strode to class. Elegant snippets of Persian could be heard in the corridors. The course schedule was taped to a desk: "Elementary Persian," "Modern Iran," "The Ways of Iranians."
This was the Eastern Languages section of Ain Shams University in Cairo, which we visited today for an interview with one of Egypt's leading scholars on Iran. Dr. Mohamed el Said Abdel Mo'men, a professor of Iranian studies, turned out to be an affable, humble academic with amazing stories about his research stint in Iran during the 1970s, when the seeds of dissent were growing into the movement that would culminate with the Islamic revolution of 1979.
The professor, who speaks fluent Persian, claims to have been the first Egyptian to study at an Iranian university during Anwar Sadat's administration. As the sole Arab on an Iranian campus, Abdel Mo'men said, he experienced both the legendary Persian condescension toward their Arab neighbors, as well as the equally legendary Persian hospitality to guests.
Back then, student dissidents who didn't dare confide in fellow Iranians for fear of being sold out to the shah's security forces often showed up at their Egyptian classmate's dorm room, eager to discuss their yearning for political Islam, for revolution, for an end to the decadence that marked the Western-backed shah's regime. The professor said the student activists trusted him, a Sunni, with some of the earliest underground recordings of Ayatollah Khomeini's speeches, as well as banned pamphlets and important Shiite literature.
"Students are always at the core of revolution," Abdel Mo'men said. "When I lived in the dorms in Iran, I would see police and security guards come at dawn and take away groups of students...I think the students trusted me because they knew I wouldn't tell the police. I was a foreigner, and neither a leftist nor an Islamist."
When the unrest increased, Abdel Mo'men said, he was forced to return to Egypt after two years in Tehran. He brought home piles of recordings, documents and literature, which he translated and then wove into one of the Arab world's first books about those heady days: "The Issue of the Iranian Revolution," published in Arabic in 1981.
Abdel Mo'men found that the open gates of learning and cultural exchange had swung shut after the revolution, which sent the shah into exile in Egypt, where he died in 1980. Sadat gave him a state funeral and the shah's tomb is in a Cairo mosque. (At the request of the Egyptian government, Abdel Mo'men had accompanied the shah in Cairo and even translated the deposed ruler's will.)
The professor has visited Iran since it became a Shiite theocracy; all the trips were for official academic conferences. However, with diplomatic relations between Egypt and Iran frozen since just after the revolution, Abdel Mo'men can no longer nurture the close intellectual relationships he once enjoyed with Iranian counterparts.
"I am, after all, Egyptian, and I have to serve my country," the professor said.
As we prepared to leave his office, we asked for contact details for other Egyptian experts on Iran. The professor happily obliged. Then we asked how to get in touch with Iranians living in Cairo, and whether he could arrange meetings for us.
For the first time in our long interview, Abdel Mo'men became visibly uncomfortable and evasive.
"Of course there are Iranians living here," he said, "but we aren't allowed to talk to them."
We told him we could just take the names and track down the Iranians ourselves. The professor continued to shake his head.
"I'm sorry," he said. "I just can't."
I'm curious about why there's an interest in studying farsi and learning about Iran at university if political relations are so strained that people don't even want to admit to knowing Iranian nationals? Just the literature and poetry?
Posted by: SP | October 22, 2007 at 01:38 PM
Good question. Maybe so the Egyptians can communicate with the new Iraqi government? Kidding!
I guess there are many reasons, first and foremost the good, old-fashioned pursuit of knowledge. Also, there are periodic talks between Egyptian and Iranian officials so there's still a need for good interpreters. Many Egyptians also have a strong affection for Ahl el Bayt, the family of the prophet (ie, Hussein, Ali, etc.) and might be interested in translating Persian texts from Qom. A more cynical reason might be knowing thine enemy, perhaps the reason many Israelis learn Arabic and Palestinians learn Hebrew. (Incidentally, Hebrew also is offered at Ain Shams and other Egyptian universities.) And, as you pointed out, that wonderful Persian literature and poetry. Who wouldn't want to read a pure, untranslated Hafez ghazal?
Posted by: Hannah Allam | October 22, 2007 at 06:48 PM
Ah - I was going to ask next if Hebrew was offered too. I guess all the various pragmatic and intellectual reasons suffice to attract enough students - and knowing thine enemy is always an important one (see how the study of Arabic boomed in the US post 9/11?) particularly if that Shia crescent keeps growing, which incidentally might not be such a bad thing if it brings glorious Iranian khoresht and polow in its wake.
Posted by: SP | October 23, 2007 at 02:33 AM
Funny, a half-Iranian, half-English friend of mine living in Cairo says that he's always greeted with whoops of delight by ordinary Egyptians when he tells them he's from Iran. That says much for differing perceptions of what constitutes 'the enemy' and why. Also the comparison with Israel is a bit off the mark. Iran may be a long-standing traditional Arab enemy but it's still regarded as part of the Middle Eastern family not a recently arrived aggressive interloper.
Posted by: NN | October 23, 2007 at 03:18 AM
NN, thanks for your comment. I should clarify: there is certainly a very high level of hostility between the governments -- that's what I meant by "enemy." (you should see how Iran is bashed at Arab League summits) But you're absolutely right about the Persian-Egyptian lovefest on the personal level.There's the Ahl el Bayt connection, the pride in civilizations that stretch back thousands of years. I remember bartering for a carpet in Tehran and the shopkeeper just wouldn't reduce her price, no matter what. After I'd grudgingly paid her what she asked, we started chatting and she asked if I was Arab. I told her I was Egyptian and she went bananas, kissing me and welcoming me and singing Amr Diab songs. Best part: "Why didn't you tell me before? 25 percent off for you!"
Posted by: Hannah Allam | October 23, 2007 at 06:09 AM
Hilarious - Amr Diab got you a discount? He's good for something, then!
An Iranian-American acquaintance talks about how she would get approving nods and thumbs up for being a "good Muslim" from Cairo taxi drivers years ago, when she told them she was Iranian - not because she was terribly pious (she's not veiled, and if they had probed they'd have discovered she was pretty much atheist) but because the Iranian revolution was popular among the Quran cassette-loving cabbie crowd.
I figured people who bothered to study Farsi at the university level were more likely to have pragmatic than sentimental reasons for doing so, hence the curiosity about government-level rather than sh3ab-level enmity (I've yet to hear any examples of the latter, actually).
Posted by: SP | October 23, 2007 at 06:22 AM
It was very interesting interview Hannah..
Recently i've found a lovely Egiptian friend. When we exchanged our cultural info, we got that there are much similarity between Iranian culture and Egiptian one. Even in litrature and phrases. In traditions, some foods and costums.
It really made me eager to visit Egypt someday. (Of course not with my other passport) And she also is eager to travel to Iran now..
I think kind of course in universities, help people to learn about each other countries more. Even if governments are not in touch, the nations can get to be in relation. Can't they?
It can be a start point.. I think it works for future peace..
Posted by: Shahrzad | October 29, 2007 at 05:40 PM
Correction: (Of course with my other passport)*
Posted by: Shahrzad | October 29, 2007 at 05:42 PM
As an Iranian, I like Egyptians - I've been to Egypt and it looks like Iran in so many ways, a once ancient country stripped of its grandieur by ignorant rulers. Iranians and Egyptians are also culturally similar, although I have to say at this point in time, Egyptians are more religiously conservative. It's a shame that Egyptians get treated like crap in gulf arab countries that use their knowledge but give them half the pay that their own semi-literate citizens get. Hopefully, one day when both Egypt and Iran are free, we can exchange skills and expats and ignore those useless bedouin.
Posted by: Homie | November 21, 2007 at 03:59 PM
Homie or Shahrzad is a free spirit writer. That one day you wish for should be here yesterday; and many people are wishing for that freedom…Behe Kahera khoush amdeed!
Posted by: Andrew | November 22, 2007 at 12:30 AM